My girlfriend and i found these to be an interesting diversion, she does like to be whipped and spanked and the feeling of helplessness that accompanied these ties was very welcome, she did however say that she wasn''t too keen on having her hands above her head for too long, we did hope that these could be used as seperate ties that we could clip together for bed bondage to save taking them off and putting on other ones but there is no facility for that with these, never the less, a welcome addition to fun times